Somewhere around 90% of Christian evangelicals voted for Donald Trump this past Tuesday in Oklahoma. To be blunt and to the point…this is why Oklahoma will continue to remain a backwards shithole state which doesn’t keep pace within an everchanging world.
If this is the leader of the Christian evangelical movement it doesn’t say much if anything for the movement. It says to me pray at home for your own spiritual needs and live the Golden Rule at a higher level than Donald Trump.
I cannot fathom how any person who claims to believe in the New Testament can defend their position in voting for Donald Trump twice.
Vince Bugliosi and F. Lee Baily couldn’t defend your position on their best days in their prime.
It is being reported Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump are both trying to talk Donald Trump into conceding the election. Even they are embarrassed by the level of complete stupidity their father has come to represent from a historical prism.
Even with as many low moments this president has given historians to rate him as the worst ever…Trump seems determined to knock it out of the ballpark in surpassing James Buchanan as the worst president in American history.
It is what it is. When you have half or even more of your population who don’t read and have little if any intellectual curisosity this is what happens. Ignorant democracies are doomed to fail. Half of America is clearly on this track. You can argue which half…but if you honestly believe Donald Trump’s vision of America’s future is the correct path then I don’t know what to say to you.
Stupid isn’t a winning hand circa 2020. The world is a very complex place. If you think I’m writing total bullshit then ask yourself why Oklahoma ranks at the bottom of every list you don’t want to be on the bottom of. Education matters. Reading matters. Avoidance of being the dumbest red state in the country matters.
Good luck with that path.
Donald Trump now becomes the 13th one term POTUS in American history. In my lifetime there has been Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Bush 41, and now the pussy grabber.
Of those four…. Trump stands easily as the worst based on his complete ignorance of the United States constitution and the complete wreakage he wreaked upon America’s standing in the world. We won’t even get to the current 20 million who are unemployed, his deficits, or the current condition of GDP in relation to total budgetary debt during his four years in office. I’ll leave that to others at the Wall Street Journal and the Christian Science Monitor.
It is what it is.
Be kind to others and do the best you can would be my advice moving forward. Maybe reading a legitimate book now and again wouldn’t hurt either.
It’s time we cut to the chase and cease with the bullshit from both sides. This isn’t going to work having two countries within one border. Joe Biden is going to win the election, but somewhere around seventy million people voted for titular face of the Christian evangelical movement of pussy grabbers.
This isn’t going to work… besides the Trump states minus Texas and Florida are pretty much financial deadbeat states which have to be constantly propped by federal dollars to keep states like Oklahoma and Alabama afloat.
The red states don’t pull their weight economically and it’s not going to change because for the most part these states don’t value education in relation to keeping up with the rapidly everchanging world.
Florida and Texas are the outliers demographically. I’m not sure the Union should get rid of either. Plus…you want the oil and natural gas in Texas. In reality…Oklahoma never should have been allowed to become a state and should either be annexed by Texas or revert to Indian Territory. If Mary Fallin and Kevin Stitt are the best this state can muster…then it shouldn’t remain a state. They obviously don’t have enough smart people to run a positive cash flow operation.
That entire SEC West mass of states from the Missouri-Arkansas region to Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama along with South Carolina should be allowed to secede. West Virginia, Tennessee, and Kentucky for certain should be included in this group. I’m not sure about North Carolina. Enough already they hate the Union. Turn them loose. It will require nuance for certain.
But in the end these people aren’t changing. This is who they are. This is their DNA. Boone Pickens dropped around a billion at O State and couldn’t even get Gundy to cut his mullet. Nothing is going to change.
Tourism, NASCAR, and cable entertainment ventures like Tiger King will be their brand along with SEC football. They will offer some of the best cuisine in the country while they can remain racist and continue to be math/science deniers. Nick Saban, Tommy Tuberville, or Mike Gundy will succeed Trump at some point. They can completely turn their noses to math and science and not have to feel any longer the coastal elites are mocking them.
Currency issues and other issues such as military bases will require some genuine thought and nuance. And of course since all these Confederates are Darwinian laissez-faire big time thinkers none of them will take their Medicare, Social Security, or Medicaid benefits with them to next frontier. They hate FDR…so let them go.
Joe Biden is a really nice man, but he’s not changing anything with these people. It’s who they are given they never came to terms with the Civil War.
So instead of ruining the United States why not try something else these people can live with inside their own Confederacy bubble existence.
When you have a base which doesn’t read and only watches Fox for their take on the world this is what happens. A book, even one with pictures only every now and then would be helpful.
Any topic…just a book to keep them off Fox and rotting their brains. This should have been Melania’s mission instead of policing internet bullying. I think we have to give her an F on the internet bullying program Just saying.
I’m actually thinking about my dad right now and I’m crying. I’m thinking about the time in the late 1950’s in which my father and Joe Carter Sr. were refused service in a downtown Oklahoma City cafe because Joe was black.
My dad told the owner of the cafe to go to hell. He and Joe then sat on a curb and ate some sandwiches they bought at a nearby convenience store. A lifetime friendship fell into place. One of affection and deep mutual respect.
Fast forward to today and I’m thinking about James Clyburn and his friend Joe Biden. I’m thinking of how Joe Biden wouldn’t be on the cusp of being president elect if James Clyburn hadn’t stood by Biden in South Carolina when it appeared Biden’s candidacy was dead in the water.
I’m also thinking if not for the black voters in Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit, and Philadelphia we’d be looking at another four years of Donald Trump.
Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia. I was wrong about Georgia. An SEC football state actually stood up to the Birther racist Donald Trump. Go figure this could happen in Richard Nixon, George Wallace, and Donald Trump’s Solid South. But it did. To me this is the single most encouraging thing in this election in that a southern confederate state went for a ticket with a female black liberal alongside Joe Biden. I didn’t think this was doable.
The confederacy never ended. They’ve never accepted the fact they lost the Civil War, but gladly accept monies from the U.S. Treasury via other states in the Union to prop them up economically.
So as we move along this process with Trump and his lawyers there is some hope for the South. Maybe just a glimmer, but some hope beyond SEC West football.
Hope is a good thing.
I challenge any white Trump supporter in Oklahoma to tell me with a straight face if they’d have had a problem with a black policeman murdering George Floyd if he were white.
Really. Think about it for a day. Try and forget the individual and corporate effective marginal rates and think about what if George Floyd was white. Then maybe you’ll understand some of what just happened in certain cities in our country in this election.
Like Joe Biden…I don’t want to gloat to any of my Trump friends or relatives who voted for this miserable piece of shit. My little neighbor next door in his MAGA cap and red Trump shirt looked suicidal earlier this evening.
It’s not offically over yet. Nevada is still in play.
I know this is tough for you people…especially the Christian evangelicals who basically have ignored every word and verse in the Bible these past four years.
I am not going to gloat or troll or torture any of you people who disgraced yourself for voting for this piece of shit TWO TIMES.
I would never tie any of you in a chair, set you on fire, and cut your ears off.
This is a time to heal as one.
I would never remind any of you Donald Trump is on the cusp of becoming the first POTUS since 41 in 1992 to become a one termer. How ironic that a president as qualified as Bush 41 met the the same second term fate as the human junk bond.
Of course…President Obama served two terms and has an approval rating of 92% or so.
We all know that will never grate on Donald Trump. For you Trump zombies that was sarcasm.
We are all in this together.
This is not a time to mock or torture others in their down moment.
This is a time to come together as a nation.
God bless America, God bless Sleepy Joe Biden, and God bless the right to vote in our democracy.
Donald…you’re fired, buddy. Go home. It’s time to go home.
Doug Jones is a Democrat in Alabama who won the U.S. Senate seat after Jeff Sessions was picked as Donald Trump’s first attorney general in the rogue red state of Alabama. Somehow Jones won the special election when the GOP in Alabama nominated the Love Judge Roy whaatever his name was as their candidate.
Even before Jones took the Senate floor and gave what I thought was the best speech of the impeachment trial he never had a chance in Alabama. No way. Oklahoma and Alabama are almost identical politically. No chance…no way.
Great speech. I called his office and told one of his aides as much. Honest politicians are like dogs who play in the street. Neither lasts very long.
He did the right thing though. His family should be proud of him.
I wonder what would have happened if Saban had run against Tommy Tuberville?
I don’t know.
I might want to think about that a bit. Who would carry all the rural counties in Alabama?
Like in Oklahoma. If Mike ‘Mullet King’ Gundy ran on the GOP ticket versus Lincoln Riley as a Dem … I would assume Mullet King would would win that senate race in rogue red Oklahoma by a comfortable margin even though none of his teams have done anything since 2011.
BTW…Gundy should grow the mullet back. What kind of man allows Mike Holder to tell him to cut his mullet. Grow the mullet back…Mike Gundy. I have to admit…I miss the mullet.
While they count the votes…I need to take a break from the workload here at okcthunderground.com. Three world championships in three various bubbles and a presidential election. I watched close to a hundred Stanley Cup Playoff games and quite frankly…I’m whipped.
I’m not watching any football for the next month except for OU, Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State games.
My wife was so impressed with my Jeff Bridges Film-Fest… she said, “Why don’t we binge and do a Chick Flick Film Fest?”
On Monday night we did ‘A Good Year’ starring Russell Crowe, Marion Cottilard, and Albert Finney. This is a good film directed by Ridley Scott. It would never make my top ten chick flick list, but it’s nice little sleeper and a well done movie.
Tonight…we’re going big boy britches with Four Weddings and a Funeral. This is No. 2 all-time on my chick flick list. This reminds me so much of my trip to Alabama when I asked my wife to come back to Oklahoma. This scene just blows me away. Be sure and see the movie if you never have before.
Love actually is all around us everyday in various shapes and forms. We just have to take the time to realize it. I feel so much better with the prospect the human junk bond will no longer be our president.
I thought it would be close and its incredibly close. The polls do not reflect the grip Donald Trump has on people from an economic standpoint. He strikes fear in the hearts of the have nots and greed in the hearts of those who have too much. As James Carvell once said…”It’s always about the economy, stupid.”
I wrote on my modest blog to never trust a poll related to Donald Trump and I got that right.
I had Nevada on my key state list and I’m giving myself a pat on the back for that as well. As Nevada goes the country goes.
I picked Joe Biden to win and in poker parlance if I had to pick between Joe Biden’s cards and Donald Trump’s cards this morning I’d say Biden has a pair of kings over a pair of nines while Trump still needs a card to fill an inside straight.
I ‘think’ Joe Biden will be our next president come Friday or so, but I would never ever count out the grifter rogue Donald Trump and what he could pull off at the last hour. Fifty three cards to a deck, right?
A part of me almost wants to see Trump win just to see if he will replace Bill Barr with Mike Gundy as our next Attorney General. Albeit…Gundy never went to law school and can’t beat OU…but what does that matter.
I also picked former Auburn head coach Tommy Tuberville to beat the extremely qualified Doug Jones for a Senate seat in Alabama. You go 7-3 at Auburn over Alabama and you get yourself a United States senate seat. The Peter Principle has never been more alive in the South than this morning after the election. Someone please tell the South they lost the Civil War but got SEC West football and Tommy Tuberville in return.
I also never bought into the notion Biden could win states in the South with a liberal black woman as his running mate. Maybe Georgia will prove me wrong later today, but I’m skeptical. The flip side is Kamala Harris may have stoked black voter turnout in Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia. I don’t think so, but that there’s that possibility. When Biden won South Carolina in the Democratic primaries it was evident blacks trust Joe Biden more than either Kamala Harris or Cory Booker. Tell me I’m wrong.
So we sit… watch and wait with the hope we don’t see Trump in a downtown parade in Miami looking every bit the piece of Fidel Castro with orange hair and a Slovenian escort at his side in celebration of his re-election.
How far has America devolved culturally?
You tell me.
Maureen Dowd, that was for you, babe. See you on the beach in Miami soon.
This election is basically for the soul of America moving forward. The rule of democracy and the hope for more decency.
I have no idea how it will go in the battleground states tomorrow once all the votes are counted. No one really does now or did they on the eve of the 2016 presidential election.
I don’t think polls calibrate Donald Trump and how he affects the fears of certain voting blocs.
We can only hope this isn’t a repeat of the courts deciding an election as was the case in the Bush-Gore election of 2000.
We’ve somewhat lost ourselves on what it means to be an American. We spend too much time arguing and not enough time listening to the concerns of one another.
Regardless of party affiliations we all need to experience an inflection point of remembering how fortunate we have been to be Americans.
Our country is the last great hope for democracy. For the freedoms and liberties which make America such a uniquely wonderful place to live.
We are all in this together so we might as well start learning how to live and govern together.